pay taxes. >> trace: 30 seconds to respond. >> thank you. i mean, the numbers up the overwhelming. washington post poll we had to face this whole segment is at 80 plus percent of the black americans see trump as racist, anything about the attacks that he has had on a lot of these black prosecutors, alvin bragg, new york, fani willis in georgia,'s you know, it's just constant. and i think you can to say oh, they think biden's races, they just are not happy. in many ways of the biden. but it is a whole different can of worms then whether thinking about. >> trace: .net my don williams, thank you both. that is a story wednesday may 8th 2024 but as always, 'the story' goes on. fox news at night 8:00 pm on the last, your world right now. [ ♪♪ ]

>> [ bleep ]. >> if you're on george washington university property you are in in violation of your terms. >> we allowed protesters ample time to leave the area, in total, there were six announcements before our officers took action, many complied and left in cabot area, those who do not comply were arrested. >> and petey's to the first amendment demonstration is a political. it is without regard to one side or the other. >> neil: quails breaking out as police step into clear anti- israeli encampment at george washington university,'s same thing at new york city at the fashion institute of technology. but now his graduation same one is closing in, what needs to be done to, these disruptions out?

welcome everybody, i'm neil cavuto and this is your world, a confusing world today, a lot of these disruptions do not ease, some of them heating up as we speak. the narrative at george washington university where that clean up and away, arrests have lawmakers speaking out. soon good afternoon, a lot of changes in the last 24 hours, the student protest area where we see those protesters were nearly two weeks, that is now completely cleared out. those protesters no longer able to get any, that there are we and the present as you mentioned overnight there was some 33 people arrested as universities simply said enough was enough. during the arrest, what happened well before sunrise, we know that peppers pay was used. the protesters claimed that police were something going too far. we heard from the police today they said they were necessary because some of those protesters tried to fight back as they were cleaning the encampment. within the last hour we heard some supportive lawmakers up on

capitol hill who were supportive of the protesters who were arrested, here are members of those so fall left squad had to say in the last hours. >> i want all the democrats and republicans do know they cannot arrests that are way out of this growing dissent, every corner of our country, people of different faiths, a different color is cognitive and ethnicities, backgrounds of different types are coming together palestinians deserve to live. >> perhaps the biggest symbol of the protest was the statue of george washington once it covered in graffiti, it is now covered up. the universities taking a lot of time and money trying to restore eight, we did get a seaman from george washington university late today and they say, all activities including the activities of free expression on the campus will require reservations through student affairs, in addition, no ramification for such events on campus. they do not want to see anything like the protest that have been out here to pop back up, whether or not we will see students try

to take over another part of campus is yet to be seen. you mentioned some of the arrests taking place in new york, still protest happening at mit, as for gw specific a the commencement address is still scheduled to happen, walking down i think may 19th, invest another's area where the protesters worry was to be off limits for the next several weeks. >> neil: thank you very much. was go to scott walker right now, president or candidate, president young america's foundation and he's dealing with this, aware of this in his own state, aw madison french example. governor always good to see you, i know ew mattison, some faculty members got involved on a walk out in support of some of those protesters. do you know that stands right now? >> yes, they continue to push, a number of them arrested and then came back that it again. remembered this is not about free speech, it is illegal in wisconsin to put up a camp and stay overnight on any university property without a prior authority, approval from with

the chancellor or administrators. they were violating the law, the law is clear whether it is a student, faculty member or others out there, i am offer free speech, at young america's foundation we have been pushing for it for years, where our conservative right and center speakers have been pushed back from universities. about it this is not free speech, while eating the law, destruction of property, that is not the case. these people, these students and faculty's need to face the consequent to. >> neil: and it's wildly inconsistent him on colleges and universities, having these types of walkouts or worse. not nearly as severe, most of the colleges and universities where protests have continued. but again there is no consistent way to counter them, some schools like brown and northwestern trying to make deals with the protesters to say that they would put on a ballot, or a measure way to put it up for a vote, i guess in companies that invest in israel. others don't do anything of the sword. is our common groundie think to

deal with ischemic. >> think the best approach is what was done at uc florida, you want free speech? do it, you want to protest, you want to put up signs, you want to speak out you can do that but you can't violate the law. can have permanent signs, you can't put up tents, you can do these other things and that's just a, you have a bunch of spoiled brats in many cases thing that they can violate the law and there has to be consequences per mac any time they tried to appease and by the way, think about these poor kids at a number of these campuses who five years ago and high school, is a graduation ended because of covid-19, not because of a handful of radicals, polls shows that is thankfully most college students are not siding with the protesters at all. they just want to go back and have a chance to finish up their classes, get what they paid for it, and access to quality education. oh and by the way, unlike was a squad member -- i like one of the squad number just, nationwide it's an 80 -20 split

support for israel over hamas, even on college campuses it's about 57 percent of college student side with israel over hamas on this issue. this is a radical minority out of there that of the qualitative initiators unfortunately are listening to. >> neil: this maybe a more political question so forgive me, what does seem order and not through all of this, often times it has been almost monolithic in its support of democrats, is still disproportionately that way, even after all of this. i just find that curious, what you think? >> i am shocked, this is one of the things we have been doing at a young america foundation, pushing back in support of jewish students be! again we get up early -- plenty of pushback, at meditators, student, leaders will try to stop some speakers at the foundation because they will say that her words and languages some -- somehow harmful because they don't want to have an true and honest debate which is what you should have. in contrast when it jewish

students actually barricaded up for fear of their life or at least bodily harm instead of dorms or libraries and other places, sadly many of these administer to say oh, it's just about free speech. no, there should be no, i don't care of your jewish or any other faith, tradition or background, no student in a medication to fear for the life or safety on a college campus. we should be able to speak freely anywhere but was particularly on a college campus, but freaked -- speaking freely is not the same as ushering threats, breaking the law or destruction of property, those have consequences. >> neil: scott walker, great seeing you. thank you. in the meantime, you know the fixation in new york, the ongoing a mundane as testimony, told to resume a new york but twahtwah key cases are getting a lot of attention right now that could be printed aside, or at least changed dramatically. what about the documents case in florida, with the judges saying this might be put off indefinitely, then there's what is going on in georgia, which

the district attorney, funny will is, with the dancho in the front dawn trumpet legal team wanting to get a disqualified from having the case altogether. jonathan isaac and atlanta was more on that, jonathan? >> colonial, legal experts a what happened today was the victory for the defense, not just because it keeps the spotlight on forney willis, at the top prosecutor in the case instead of the defendants -- fani willis, it's almost always certain to delay the choppermac also the georgia court of appeals has twahtwah terms in which you can take up this case, the first of those storms doesn't even begin until august which was exactly when it will is had hoped to bring the former president from his associates to trial. >> it there is no way this would go to trial any time before the election. we would be lucky to see a trial in a spring of 2025.

>> actually margin, the defense lawyer who filed the initial motion tells fox news, we feel confident that when it reviews the clear evidence of conflict, the court of appeals will agree with us and disqualified miss it will is in her entire office from further prosecution of this matter and it require a neutral prosecutor be appointed to review whether these charges or even appropriate. now, in the majority of cases of the georgia court of appeal, simply takes written arguments from the attorneys on both sides because of this case is so high profile, anthony christ, the professor you saw in that report, he anticipates that there will be oral arguments. >> neil: jonathan, thank you. meanwhile, back to the focus tomorrow, manhattan of course stormy daniels do back on this stand, tron back in the courthouse. all of this at a time, a lot of

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>> neil: standing there my sandy storm that is of course stormy daniels heads to retake the witness stand tomorrow, is that cross-examination continues, naked boy is there already, as he has been throughout this thing, nate? soon former president donald trump is spending the off day meeting with donors come -- coming back to the courthouse tomorrow morning. one of the testimony will continue with the necklace excited to continue questioning her. the testimony ended yesterday, with daniels admitting that she was partly motivated by money by denying that she excluded drum. daniels testified she might of the former president in 2006 and had sex with him shortly after, she ended up selling his story to michael goldman for $130,000.

daniels told the jury that machine now hates trump and when asked if she wants to see trump in jail, daniels responded to "i want him to be held accou accountable". daniels testified? trump at a celebrity golf tournament, saw him several times after that, daniels that she wanted to be on the apprentice tv show during her direct testimony data is provided extreme detail of her encounter with trump, trump's lawyers asked for a mistrusting the jury heard damaging testimony and related to the charges trump faces. the judge agreed the testimony went too far but not as a request for mistrial. and now it trump a poster today on true social "it is hard to sit back and listen to lies and false statements made against you knowing if you respond, even to the most modest fashion, you are told by a corrupt and highly conflicted judge that he will be put in prison, may be for a longer period of time". why dennis testimony resumed at 9:30 am tomorrow, it will begin

with her cross-examination, in the prosecution has already signaled as they all of you have more questions for her. back to you. >> neil: thank you of a much. does insulation is necessarily mean disasters? if you are thinking about bill clinton, back in 1990s, not necessarily. the affair that came to light. his poll numbers after impeachment were higher had beforehand, he had a 55 percent approval after being told that when held, 71 percent. so they make people back then did not seem to care, our national politics reported that a very different times in a very different gentlemen, i grant you that but sometimes an issue like this will galvanize people to hate the guy that they are ab about, sometimes wrong. very, very wrong see what you are absently right, you can just go back to 2016 presidential election, one along that --

before that election came out, there was audio over the businessmen donald trump literally bragging about a groping woman. and told us out of the time that was now for the deaths to the trump steam it. all bca did not work out that way. i think there is precedent for this, that these salacious stories, the salacious background to men like trump and also form president clinton does not necessarily hurt them politically. i think part of that has to do with that the american people are not necessarily to into it, the way you and i are. we have polls showing that most voters don't necessarily care about of this when they go to the ballot box, they're thinking about the economy, the situation of the southern border, crime, hells gate, there's so many things you can talk about. >> neil: i do believe the prosecution was fully intending, august 2 stormy daniels to give the most intimate, embarrassment

details. and maybe the cannon on the fact that if it will not be allowed which oddly enough it was, it would do so much damage and jurors would be so affected by it that they would be wanting to go after the god? it could be just the opposite, it could look like a pilot to those jurors cut into the american people not see this is what it is supposed to be you, not the trial we thought it was going to be? >> accurate absently seeing it backfiring, but look, i think the prosecution judging from the last two weeks of the trial, they seem to have the ancient of their strategy on this idea of election interference. these hush money payments and the falsified documents and such. they were down to interfere in the 2016 presidential election in order to sort of plot those negative stories about trump.

so this might have been something, they thought could have been used, the former president and that seemed so salacious and gossipy. you will have to see, i did see some reporting from colleagues in the room, that stormy daniels during her testimony toward of came off as a very relatable, friendly, warm and just went into major detail about her interactions with trump. so we will see how that plays going forward. >> neil: i'm curious to, these two other cases that are probably far more significant, in this to people who may mount -- may not necessarily flip to donald trump may think it is all i that it's being adjudicated as if we speak, some of the big one sick the classified documents trial that could be put off indefinitely, we're learning simply of the case of fani willis going after the appeals court to get her out of handling that entire donald trump during my six case. so the two big ones remain very

much in depth. >> absolutely. this sort of played into trump's legal strategy going into this in terms of delay, delay, delay. trump wants to delay the use until after the election. so when he is president, you can theoretically, and as it is very theoretical, of a hypothetical, he could potentially flip that a claim of some sort of immunity. he also doesn't want these two other cases that are could be arguably more damaging to him damage him before the presidential election. i think you are right, this is consensus among republicans and democrats that this case, the hush money case in new york which is guaranteed to wrap up before election day, that is the weakest all the -- out of all of them. so the deal -- the developments with the delay men's and postponing of these other trials help trump. >> neil: thank you very much,

national politics reported. in the meantime, following a story that first-aid ministration seemed to step back from an almost a night out right, the argument that they were withholding arms and weapons to israel precisely because of the as quitting conflict there there and that they might do more damage. we are falling down closely, julian? >> colonial, as you know the byte and administration recently held back that shipment of precision bombs from azo but we are now learning to the administration is considering withholding more weapons going forward, we are starting to hear from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, nobody's pleased with the byte on administration's policy, we will bring you the details coming up next. [ ♪♪ ]

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>> neil: we got the latest on these wheat -- wicked tornado, people hiding and trying to be safe inside of a fedex facility, they're finally out but it is not over, the latest after this

[ ♪♪ ] >> neil: right so of course the administration has come around and say yes, some weapons were withheld to israel including we are told from the wolfe street different wall street journal, some 2000 bombs administration thought would do more damage than good in gaza as it is trying to secure rescues and safety for those in that area. anyway jillian turner has been piecing all of this together because it is quite as a ruckus with republicans claiming the white house is gone too far, jillian? >> administration officials already held -- withheld a shipment of precision bombs to his will, learning behind the scenes officials are considering postponing or even cutting further shipments, those concerns at least some of these weapons will be used by the idf and rafah, now packed with 1.3 million palestinians or thereabouts, a lot of those people already displaced by this ongoing war, take a listen to

matt miller. >> de think too many palestinians died and then when you look at those results and as i said and minute ago, you try to imagine a repeat of such a campaign in a more dense areas and where israel has operated to data, that is why we have such great concerns. >> a one major factor for concern, unicef estimates 600,000 children are hunkered down in rafah, the byte and administration wants an israeli invasion plan that prioritizes their protection. is who and i won't speak to anything beyond the current cause of assistance, the was nod of this decision. >> israel has been hit in the

last few weeks by iran, hezbollah and hamas guide dedicated to their destruction. and you are telling me you are going to talk them how to fight the war? and what they can't and can use when everybody around them wants to kill all the jews. >> on the other side of this issue, democratic lawmakers apportioned back on president biden sending any weapons to israel, they say they don't want to be in a situation where the biden administration is aiding and abetting civilians dying on the ground during this war. >> neil: jillian turner at the state department, michael back with is the former is really ambassador to the united states, ambassador what do you make of this? somewhat weaponry withheld from israel? >> it's a harrowing experience, a shocking experience, deeply, deeply disappointing. and what can i say it is frightening, we are fighting a two front of or, at least

waterfronts, or civilian population, the back waited from the northern part of the country, is uninhabitable, under constant barrage is from hezbollah and, our soldiers were killed over there, down south, over soldiers are under fire from hamas, stage situated within rafah. we had fought for soldiers killed this week by a mortar barrage from inside rafah. which imagine with the atrocities of october seventh. it is not without precedent, of all my 2015 also withheld the supply of vile missiles, another round of fighting with hamas on the same basis that is what was supposedly killed in too many palestinians. but of the message to israel and a message to american allies is very unfortunate and very makes the message, the biden administration has helped us in terms of very large sums and financial aid, blocking the maneuverings and the united

nations to quit a palestinian state unilaterally that with retinas, but now this -- create. and now would question whether it is a legal move, congress 20 years ago has a bill called qualitative military edge which obligates an 80 ministration, republican or democrat to report to congress on the degree of which the united states is enabling israel to defend itself by itself against any middle eastern adversary or any combination of the middle eastern adversaries black and by the way the president has to report to congress at the degree to which his or her administration is supporting. without law i don't know how the white house will do that report to congress, withholding israel's military edge and a time when it is denying the idf vital forms of ammunition and in the middle of what is essentially a defensive war. >> neil: i know you're a

graduate of columbia university here new york, you know it's been going on in there, trying it back to normal. anti- israeli protests are still going to continue we are told. and now this news that the administration might be sort of running behind it as well as back and fighting this war. do you feel this is a pylon? >> i feel these protests across the united states, the started at columbia, i have a gravitational pull. democratic policy toward the middle east, tour in israel. and you can almost measure it. it's very disconcerting again because these protests may be aimed superficially it is or what that actually aimed at the united states of america. talking my death to america, burning the american flag, spitting on policeman, and i have been asked by the jewish

folks of columbia to represent them to the congress and a several, artie called an end ministration to instruct the fdi to investigate who is organizing these protests because they are clearly organized and funded, look at the tense, that all the same tens and all the flags of the same flags. >> neil: do you feel bassitt or that joe biden means what you says when he says israel has his unequivocal support? >> i think i know joe biden very well, are worked with him very closely when i was vice president, i know he's a prison that is very committed to security to the historic alliance between israel and the united states. but you cannot say that your unequivocally supportive of israel when in fact you are qualifying support to israel and you're qualifying it at the height of a war and the height of award that israel did not want in which the he knows and barbara's terrorists broke a cease-fire and massacred 1200 israelis, in later to them, be

handed to them, rape with him, took them into satanic facilities, and this would be the equivalent of about 34,000 americans killed on a single afternoon, over the united states do i wonder? sued a good point ambassador, thank you very much, be safe be well. former israeli ambassador to the united states. by the way we do want to keep you up-to-date on some of these storms happening in this country, particularly these tornadoes going through a pretty wake aid streak of them right now, particularly in oklahoma got the latest from there after this. - yeah. nice going lou! nothing like a little confidence boost to help ease you back in to the dating scene. that includes having a smile you feel good about. fortunately, aspen dental specializes in dentures and implants made just for you. and with flexible financing, you don't need to sacrifice quality work for a price that fits your budget. at $0 down plus 0% interest if paid in full in 18 months. helping our patients put their best smile forward.

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might say that's funny that doesn't seem to be happening, six a day in a row we saw them -- the tao do this, we haven't seen that since late last year. may got tied with those, this has been a steady theme, the markets i understand climbing, the protests, but why is that? it's been the same in dating back to this israeli war. >> i think it goes back even beyond that. and fortunately there markets are not logical, so much of markets as psychological, it's hard to define how much the psychological and how much -- at the end of the day and it is nothing rational about markets in my opinion, they are either overbought, oversold blood there is no, i was in good as any realistically equilibrium. >> neil: they are nuts, they are nuts. so you are the iconic giant net. i kid. to make the point, people can't understand that and they think

back to 1968 when we had crazy markets, of course the fact of the matter is different times, different places, it can change in time -- dawn mcewen. but as a lot of things going for markets right now. >> exactly, let's talk about the negatives, so many negatives which may be confusing for folks is the middle east, it's ukraine, it's at the directed -- direction of interest rates, while the lower rates, and if so when? it's an election year, these are all unknowns quite frankly and the market has trouble with unknowns. so logically wise the market doing so well? we're climbing that a proverbial wall, on the other hand, it is at the end of the day all about corporate earnings and corporate earnings on a balance have been terrific. sure they have been a few hiccups, a few problems with individual companies in terms of their earnings and at the reporting period like with every reporting period but at the end of the day, it will be corporate

earnings that will drive the market and unbalanced earnings have been terrific. look like they will remain good despite of all the unknowns that are out there. i guess we have to conclude, at the end of the day yes, it's a lot of worry and it's legitimate about its corporate earnings and that is the basis for the stock market. >> neil: a lot of optimism back in fashion to say the federal reserve cutting interest rates for the years down probably before the election, i don't want to be jaded to think they would be so overtly, they could use the excuse that the latest employment reports show a dramatic slowdown in activity, so they have reason to do that. whatever your opinions of that, do they have reason to do that? >> it is about perversity think about it, on the one hand, we are rooting for a week at economic numbers to reinforce the fed in terms of lowering interest rates. i'm not sure we should all be

rooting for economic weakness. but english be rooting for economic strength. >> neil: markets, rising rate environments. lowering could indicate softening, right? >> exactly. also made that as a negative not a positive for the stock market. i mean i think it is great that everybody is rooting for lower interest rates, b. was angry going to back to the world of zero interest rates -- >> neil: won't happen at. >> it adds an aberration the history books will show that to be true. >> neil: what you tell investors could you and i have been covering this a long time, and did we both like a decade younger than our years? one thank i was wondering, it depends on your time and perspective, timing and longer-term for mate's breakfast on monday. that is changed. does it depend on whether you're talking to younger person or older present, how you guided them on the markets? >> absolutely.

at the end of the day, i must stock a jockey better at my age i'm reluctant to buy green bananas. on the other hand of your younger, there's always opportunities. if you just look, i can remember the period of 1973, 1974, the dow it was plain 580. 580! here we are a 38 or 39,000. so the answer is very simple, it's not great, the answer is, a vr longer-term investor, rbc is going to be some hickey's along the way but basically, is always opportunities in the stock market. people say it's a market of stocks, not a stock market. is always something positive to do. if i was young, i would be probably there with both feet. >> neil: you are young cal uens the otherwise. if you give up i give up. seaport securities, still has his big board past, so an iconic figure, still one of the best of money guys and no. in the meantime something we

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>> neil: tornado wreaking havoc across multiple states, got the very latest on how things are looking from robert ray in oklahoma, robert? >> storms have been ravaging the heartland for weeks and no, they are moving into the ohio valley and tennessee valley but look at this house in barnesville, this is the kitchen, imagine the memories created here and now totally destroyed. look at this entire home, the cinderblocks tossed around in this area. a. d. four tornado, let's look at of the damaged mag that is a wind unfortunately up nearly 17? national weather service upgraded from a rf3 i came across around 9:30 o'clock on

monday on this town of a thousand people north of tulsa, oklahoma. an area no stranger to areas like this but what happens, boy does it hit home. one person is dead, unfortunately in many people survived because of this right here, storm shelters or sellers, lloyd, come down here. a one of them to see the inside of the storm shelter. i will walk out and you can go in. look at that, down there, there is it water inside of the shelter from the amount of rain that came in. and there was a woman inside of this during the storm as it hit, she survived. listen to her account... >> the cellar door blew open, there was staff blowing everywhere and the door. and the storm, we had at this change ratchet and i even had it latched to the floor and it just ripped it off, staff blowing down in the day and i just got in the corner the best i could

with my little dog. we are alive. >> we are alive at. >> thank god we are alive at. >> a wheat she would not have lived and found -- if she hadn't gone down he be mad to think about it this is the door with a chain it came off. this has to be nearly a hundred pounds of not more, and it is off its hinges, it won't even showed toffoli at that point but you can see, imagine the tornado coming across here and ripping this up while she was down in there. and it moving into the side like that in all of this sound and the flurry of what is going outside with the ef4 tornado, 175 mile an hour wind ripping apart her neighborhood and over 40 homes here in this town of just a thousand people. all you have to do is take a look around here to realize this was a catastrophic event and it's been going on for weeks here in the heartland and continues to head east. it has to be a break soon,

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♪ ♪ >> there has not been one day that i was not excited about coming to work. not one. i have had hard days. i have had long days. i have had sad days. but most of the days have been filled with joy and meaning and purpose, and that is because of you. >> neil: he is a remarkable man and for regular viewers of this show you will know over the years, the many years i have had the pleasure to have him on and share some powerful moments, pastor of america's largest episcopal church, funeral services for the likes of president george bush sr., barbara bush, the last man to walk on the moon, jean stern income i was a you just at that sermon at that funeral, as well, so i got to see him close up in action, and the man, oh, man, anyone else delivered a eulogy or anything in that form.

the good pastor russ levinson with us. this is it, you really mean it, you are retiring. what is wrong with you. >> [laughs] well, neil, always good to be with you. the way in which you do it. your optimism is contagious and appreciated. >> neil: you didn't answer my question. i don't want you to leave. why are you leaving? >> you know, we all, in every vocation, always have a calling right up until the end so i will continue to be a priest and a pastor in a different way, but i have been here 17 years. i have been a priest for over 30 and i have grandchildren and i have children that i want to be closer to. i have been married 40 years this summer, and fortunately, my wife wants to keep me around and we have a good time. we are going to have more of a good time. but i will continue writing some and doing some other things. but just not in this post. >> neil: that's awesome. i've been married 40 years, as

well, and my wife, the best 40 years of her life, that's for sure, but i digress. you know what i find marvelous, i am not blowing smoke, having seen what you do and the time and care you put in what you do, you do it with warmth, really get in people's hearts, and you don't judge them, whether they are frequent mass goers or new to the church. that's a delicate balance, especially these days, isn't it? >> it really is, neil. i had the opportunity to lead my last two messages over the last few weeks. the next to last was one i removed know mike titled "remain in jesus." jesus -- the main way to remain in the lord is -- the chief expression of judeo-christian faith is we love one another. walking into churches these days, the need to feel loved not only by god but by those who are

there, and i find the members where i have served for 17 years, they are so loving and so wonderful about greeting and welcoming people in, but i think that is the call of all religious communities, really. >> neil: they are not all delivering that, though, pastor. one thing that struck me about your inherent sense of fairness, you said recently we are conservatives and liberals, we are people of traditional marriage and those who want same-sex marriage. that ought to be the church. part of the dna has made saint martin's work by and large a pretty conservative church but that is not what we lead with. people know who we are and what we are about but mostly they come because they are meeting people. you always get back to that, it is about meeting people, embracing people, all people. that's easier said than done these days. >> it is, but it is the invitation of our lord. you've got to listen to those last words of my boss, the night

before he left us, said, this is how people will know you follow me, is if you love one another. and yes, st. martin's is more of a traditional church, i am more of a traditional conservative priest, but i don't lead with that. hopefully. i lead with love and, you know, i was just talking to someone, i'm still a work in progress at 62 years old and i still got a lot to learn, but i think the way forward is to do that. you know, in the time in which we live right now, neil, as you and i have talked many times, there is so much that seems overwhelming. one of my good friends used to say you eat an elephant one bite at a time that it seems like there is an elephant of problems all around us, but look at the issue of the problem or person right in front of you, do what you can where you are, and let that be the fact that god is shining true to you, listen to that voice of god. my wife gave me a wonderful verse this morning from isaiah, if you listen to that voice

behind you whether you turn left or right you will know you are turning the right way, that is from isaiah 30. i think we need to be still enough and quiet enough in a world which has a lot of noise right now and he just reported on a lot of that. and listen to that voice of god, inviting us to be in community with each other, inviting us to love one another, inviting us to serve one another. that's our best -- that's putting our best foot forward, but also being a light of christ to other people which we are called to be. >> neil: inspirational life. i have seen that packed church and seen the impact you have any day and age where you don't see that. i wish you must access. >> thank you. >> neil: i just want to relay a couple of funny stories from him because he always throw these in, what did the dolly mama say jesus' face, can't believe it's not buddha. that's who he is. that's us. ♪ ♪ >> greg: will get back