of indigenous peoples at the un permanent forum, suleiman mamutov was unanimously elected, i emphasize this, as the speaker of the permanent form-forum, this is a high position, and mr. suleiman mamutov will report to the institutions of the forum on the state of the rights of indigenous peoples in the world. er, this was a pleasant event for us. ryfat aha, aha, another important news initiated by the majlis. the mejlis is going to erect a memorial to the victims of the genocide of the crimean tatar people, the location is still being discussed, why did you decide that it should be done now, why it is necessary to remind ukrainians that...

the crimean tatar people suffered in the second world war, including from the repressions of the stalinist regime. look, in the 20th century, the century, in the 20th century, there were two most terrible, terrible totalitarian regimes, the communist regime of the ussr and the nazi regime in germany. and these two modes. us, not only did they clash with each other, and it was the beginning of the second world war, and they committed the most massive crimes in the history of mankind, ah, and so it happened in our recent history, that in ukraine, on the territory of ukraine, all these three terrible crimes. they

directly took place on the territory of ukraine, first of all, this is the holodomor, the beginning of the 30s, which, in which millions died, very different numbers, it is difficult to establish them, from the 6 million ukrainian lives that died during the holodomor, this is the ukrainian genocide nation, this is a holocaust, what is it... the extermination of the jewish people, which was carried out by the nazis on the territory of various conquered countries, including on the territory of ukraine, well, this is an extermination, deportation, this is the total, violent expulsion of the indigenous crimean tatar people from their territory, from crimea, which is an integral part of the ukrainian state. and of course,

it is very important for ukrainian society to be conscious and aware of both the consequences and the causes, er, and most importantly, to prevent the causes of these crimes, and most importantly, to prevent the repetition of such er crimes, and so based on this, and in memory of the victims of the genocide of the crimean tatar people, we have long considered that it is very appropriate that in kyiv there would be such a memorial, er, and last year this idea was supported by the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, and we are now thinking about the implementation of this idea.

uh, it’s on the spot, there are some developments here, i ’m not ready to specify the location and perhaps the location, well, maybe it sounds like a memorial, so that those who are watching and listening to us now, it won’t be so very large-scale, it will be a building somewhere , well, the overhangs are 7 m and... with a radius of about 5 m, but we are looking for such an embodiment that, well, it would be very, well, let's say, accessible to everyone's awareness people, so that it reflects the depth of the tragedy that the crimean tatars experienced, i really hope that in the coming weeks we will decide on the location, with... er

, the graphic design was done here by young ee architects, although the basis was taken , the idea, the concept was taken from... kyzy, which at one time was developed by a famous ukrainian architect, unfortunately, he is already deceased, this is irfan sherfeddinov, this is one of those senior crimean tatar architects, he lived for many years, after the war, in in kyiv, he served in the army a participant in the second world war, and therefore he was able, well, he avoided deportation, he was not there then in 1940. the fourth year in the crimea, he was in the war, demobilized, and he worked here in kyiv, all these decades, and there are his wonderful buildings and on the territory of kyiv, and his work is to be used as the basis of this memorial building, which is now proposed

to these collectives of young architects, well , the crimean tatars really have a very difficult history, in particular from the time of stalin's... repressions and since that time the crimean tatars continue to fight for their rights and for the right to self-determination, i know that during the un permanent forum on indigenous peoples, you focused on the need to adopt this decision, in particular the right of the crimean tatar people to self-determination of rivfatag, how do you assess the prospects of this issue now and do you think these international documents institutions, do they push... the ukrainian state to make such a decision? look, everything that is connected with the development of the ukrainian state, with our future, we first of all have to decide ourselves, but since we are building a truly democratic country, we strive and

we do everything to become a full-fledged, full-fledged member of the free family of european nations, and this is also written in our constitution, by the way, in the constitution of ukraine, regarding membership in the european union, of course, we have and will rely on international norms that determine the basic principles and norms of coexistence. er, independent states that determine the rights of peoples, and and and and indicate certain forms of exercise of their right to self-determination, you are right here, during

events that we held within the framework of the permanent forum, the 23rd session of the un permanent forum on rights. on the issues of indigenous peoples, uh, we, uh, we drew attention to the importance of the crimean tatar people realizing their right to self-determination in an independent ukrainian state, and at the same time we talked about the need to transform the current one. new status of crimea, national-territorial autonomy based on the right of the indigenous crimean tatar people to self-determination. we held several meetings, in particular we held a briefing with by national delegations of the countries of the european

union at the united nations. the delegations of the united states of america and the republic of turkey were also invited there, and we there... talked in detail about how the crimean tatars see their place in an independent ukrainian state, they said that it is very important that today we talk about the status of crimea, which must will definitely be freed from the russian occupiers, that the future of crimea is not separate and equal to the development of its native land. people to be determined the subject of this autonomy, and it seems to me that these are the conditions under which crimean autonomy can be transformed, which we named, and i will repeat them now, crimean autonomy

must necessarily ensure the following: first, it is the inviolability of the territorial integrity of the ukrainian state, so that there will never be a repetition of what happened. in 2014, this is the most important principle: the ukrainian state is indivisible, and all its territories are integral parts, this is the first condition. secondly, what the autonomy of crimea, the status of crimea, should respond to is implementation the crimean tatar people of their right to self-determination. this is not the goal, but it is a mechanism, a condition for the crimean tatars, being in a significant numerical minority on their land, to have legal mechanisms to ensure their preservation and... development, and these conditions are also special legal such mechanisms, there are

many different forms of autonomy in the world, and the ukrainian state, well, it is able to provide that form that will absolutely correspond to the interests of the entire state as a whole, and will ensure the rights of indigenous of the crimean tatar people, and one more condition is clear, which must be fulfilled by the crimean autonomy, which we are talking about and on the implementation of which we are working, that on the territory of the crimean peninsula, of course, the equal rights of citizens and people must be ensured to the same extent, of all its inhabitants who will live on the territory of the peninsula, these are the concepts and approaches that we discussed at various... events within the framework of the un permanent forum on indigenous peoples.

mr. rafate, i hope so, but now crimea is occupied and the russian occupiers treat the crimean tatar people, well, not in the best way. we even see such attempts to create some special units within the framework of the so-called russian guard, specifically from the crimeans, well, first of all, i understand from the crimean tatars, who are forcibly taken into the russian occupation army. why is this being done, what do the occupiers want to show in this way and how should crimeans act to avoid such a fate? thank you for this question, this is a very important and sensitive situation, you know, it's like when russian troops occupied crimea in 2014, and in order to convince the world that everyone in crimea just... well, they want crimea to be separated from ukraine and annexed

to russia, moscow was very short-sighted for the crimean tatars, the crimean tatar people , to take the same position , but in that mosaic, which they then intended and tried to demonstrate to the world, an artificial mosaic, as if people there want to separate from ukraine, they really lacked. that is the crimean tatar puzzle, and that is why they tried to bribe, then blackmail, and then with these repressions, persecutions, they wanted to force us into such a position, they did not succeed, now in order to, you know, encourage the crimean society, in order to show again, first of all, to the russian society, what they were saying. in the occupied territories of ukraine, in particular in crimea, local people, they want

to defend russian interests, they are now doing everything possible and impossible to use pressure, deception and money to attract people to a special unit, the so-called crimean unit, and there really are enough of them here much attention is paid to involvement there. of the crimean tatars, they do not succeed and there will not be a unit of those who broke and somehow got into that unit, but the crimean gauleiters have such a task, and they will achieve it with all the measures and peaces possible for them, and how can the crimeans avoid crimean tatars, citizens of ukraine on the territory of the occupied peninsula, this is what they are doing now. the occupiers, because they plan to do it forcibly? well, there are two options to avoid: either

to openly take the position of refusal and immediately leave, er, er, places, that is, to remain free, because they will definitely bring it to the so-called court and deprive them of their freedom, or leave crimea, and unfortunately, er well, it is this mechanism that people... choose, well, i would say to my great regret, but this is wrong, i have just spoken, people choose the least acceptable option for them, because the crimean tatars are trying... well, just by all opportunities to maintain themselves in the occupied crimea, they simply cling physically, one might say, to their land, but for that in order to avoid such forced mobilization to the russian army, they

are forced to leave crimea, and well, we cannot establish exact statistics, but... somewhere from september 2022, when mobilization was announced on the occupied ukrainian lands in crimea, and in a few months , well , at least 6-7 thousand crimean tatars, and some experts say 10,000 left crimea, they took their families, parents, in order to avoid mobilization. for these people, they reached mainland ukraine, and we are grateful to those who signed up for the armed forces forces of ukraine. chokhsagla srifataga, thank you very much for taking the time to join our broadcast. thank you. the head of mychlis of the crimean tatar people, ryfat chubarov, was

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experts said that it was on april 17 that the attack by the armed forces of ukraine on the dzhankoya airfield took place with the use of these weapons , these attacks, according to your assessment, is this really the case, well, more likely... yes than no, because according to the satellite images that were published in open sources, already after the impact of the missile, six landing sites could be seen in area of ​​the airfield, and these locations of arrivals were typical for striking with cluster warheads, that is, to talk about what is possible... was the use of some other means of impression with a warhead so powerful with so many cluster submunitions, well, we do not have such

means, except for one, precisely for attacks with an operational-tactical missile with a cluster-type warhead, according to the modification , most likely block one, and after some time the russians also published in the dzhankoy area. acceleration blocks from the means of defeat, which were found very similar to exactly those dispersal blocks that are used by the rockets, and therefore we draw the appropriate conclusion from this, yes, indeed, these were attacks, besides, the gurimo of ukraine published videos of launches that took place precisely on dzhanka, and in principle it can be done. to draw a conclusion, although it happened at night, although no one sees that the launcher is there, it is not even possible to establish what the missile looks like, but in general, by

its characteristic points, it can be recognized that it is precisely an operational-tactical missile of the attack type, well, no single rockets, another military expert svitan roman, colonel of the reserves of the armed forces of ukraine, pro... analyzed the british military aid package for ukraine and saw boats there, which, in his opinion, can be used not only for forcing the dnieper, but also for landing landings in crimea, i.e. , that these boats can reach the coast of crimea, is such an amphibious operation really possible with this military assistance? to go to crimea, they really can, it is quite... possible, but an amphibious operation is not, although what kind of amphibious operation, if we are talking about any a large-scale amphibious operation with the occupation

of a bridgehead and so on and so on, then no, because it would actually be suicide, without logistics the corresponding amphibious assault would not be able to hold out there for a long time, especially taking into account what will be used against it... almost all the complex of the so -called defense group of troops of the crimea, and this will be a suicidal mission, but there are other landings, there are landings of the type, at the level of sabotage and reconnaissance activities of the drg, but a small number, a small number of units are landed and accordingly. perform one or another combat task, these boats can also be used for such missions, mr. oleksandr, and the question is,

you said about the drg, but lately we have seen such partisan movements in various telegram channels, and, for example, how atesh, who has his own telegram channel and they always publish the progress of the russian military there, and their equipment, too. further, in your opinion, can we fully trust such partisan movements on the territory of the occupied peninsula, for example, could this not be some kind of fsb project, is it possible on the contrary, it then supports the armed forces of ukraine, which can, for example, carry out some kind of operation there or a ground operation on the temporarily occupied crimea, i will say this, on the territory of those on the temporarily occupied territories... not only crimea, but also kherson region, zaporizhzhia, even donetsk and luhansk. there continue to be patriotic ukrainians waiting for the return of these territories to

the composition. of ukraine and help as much as they can, first of all, of course, they provide relevant information, this does not mean that on the administration and moderators of this channel are located on the crimean peninsula itself, they can be located in the free part of ukraine, but receive relevant photo or video information from their sources on the peninsula, it is quite possible that they work exactly and according to such a scheme, but... and the analysis , the most important thing is that the analysis can be done according to the information that is published, how reliable it is, if it is really reliable and it is confirmed, and therefore there are such publications that speak about the usefulness of these materials for their use, respectively power structures of ukraine, but in any case, everything needs analysis and verification of one or another information, why

this is so. indeed, there may be cases when the russian special services create fictitious pro-ukrainian sites, and with one or another goal, there may be completely different tasks, but even if we are talking about the informational component, materials of this nature can be presented accordingly certain units. so russian, and they will inspire confidence, at some point it will material is presented that does not correspond to reality at all, but the reaction to this material, according to either the defense forces of ukraine, or some other resources, sources of people, and will be the main task of this material, i.e. detection or provocation, or manipulation, whatever, and therefore you have to be careful with any information, but there is

another nuance here, and... even pro-ukrainian patriotic channels, when they publish information, they can sometimes be wrong in some, let's say, narrowly specialized issues, and make a mistake in something, or due to the fact that there is a misunderstanding of some situation or some object or some other, well, let's say so, even a technical component, or maybe on... incorrect information, incorrect information directly at the site, so all this is necessary in any it is necessary to analyze what i am talking about, even the media, the pro-ukrainian media, which writes exclusively pro-ukrainian, takes such a position, and it is true, it is not some kind of manipulation, but even this information should cause critical thinking in every reader,

check what is characteristic of all sometimes do errors, even when out of 100 messages you have only one error in those 100 messages, it is still worth checking. these days, we remember how more than 100 years ago, colonel petro bolobchan entered the crimea with the army of the ukrainian people's council and liberated it from the bolsheviks, and was met by the crimeans. the ukrainian army with flowers, portraits of taras hryhorovych shevchenko and took to the streets, so there is no doubt that there are pro-ukrainian crimeans who are waiting for the ukrainian army, we have already seen it in history, we will see it again, i i hope, and if we say that crimea is not such an impregnable fortress after all, that the ukrainian army has already liberated crimea in its

history, then we can be... convinced that it will happen again, but then there was no crimean bridge, father the importance of the kerch bridge for the supply of weapons and manpower from russia, we cannot underestimate what will happen to the bridge, we expect that it will be destroyed by these missile attacks, but for some reason this is not happening, what moment are they waiting for, are the armed forces of ukraine waiting for? maximum support. word, i think that's right, the formation of conditions, and we started the conversation with you precisely from the arena in dzhankoya, where the division of the 18th anti-aircraft missile regiment, the same 18th zrp, which in 2014 switched sides, was destroyed russian occupiers, i.e. the first division of traitors has been destroyed, retaliation has begun, but another...