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of government, state, local, and federal effort. one that includes the us military. >> you deputize the national guard to carry out immigration enforcement. and then you also deploy the military to the southern border campaign. >> rhetoric is specially from trump, is often dismissed. as little more than words. >> this time. on this issue, advisers emphasize it is different if you're gonna be successful as a conservative you have to learn to be loathed by the right people and erica, what's been really interesting talking to those who support the former president and those who absolutely loathe his immigration policy. >> they agree there has been a dramatic shift on the issues that served as roadblocks in that first term, the court it's now 200 plus federal judges that were nominated by trump's supreme court's six to three conservative majority of especially in the republican party, very much in line with trumpet more than anything
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else. experience, they have four years in office. they know what to do, they know how to do it, and they very clearly plan to implement on day one. >> yeah, they certainly do you feel really appreciate it? thank you and thanks to all of you for joining us tonight. >> ac30 60 starts right now tonight on three 60. >> the preliminaries are over now what comes down to the fixer against the former president? how michael cohen's testimony could seal donald trump's fate as a felon, or how his credibility problems could sink the state's case. also tonight, his sometimes less out of often controversial journey from enforcer to informer, the star witness for the prosecution was stops on cable news and federal prison along the way. plus a true demonstration of solar power, how severe storms on the sun could wreak havoc here on earth, even as they bring the northern lights, as far south because alabama, good evening, everyone. john berman here. infrared are sent and we begin
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with the hush money trial and the prosecution witness whose testimony stormy daniels set the table for michael cohen, who will take the stand on monday here in new york he is expected to be, if not the final, than at least the central piece of the prosecution's case against his old boss it's in client the former president on though it is not yet known precisely what he will say. we do know what has not been said so far by prosecution witnesses namely any testimony that donald trump directed the falsification of business records to hide his and cohen's hush money payout to stormy daniels other witnesses up until now have established that he was very conscious about how he spent his money, that he signed the checks to cohen, that they were to reimburse cohen and then some for paying off daniel's and that the former president, along with cohen and tabloid publisher david pecker, had arranged his scheme to keep potentially devastating news quiet before the 2016 election cohen could provide the rest or not. >> we just don't know here is
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what he has said already in congressional testimony, five years ago so picture this scene in february of 2017 month into his presidency i'm visiting president trump in the oval office for the first time. >> and it's truly inspiring. he's showing me all around and pointing to different paintings. and he says to me something to the effect of don't worry michael, you're january and february reimbursement checks are coming. they were fedexed from new york and it takes a while for that to get through the white house system. as he promised, i received the first check for the reimbursement of $70,000 not long thereafter again, we do not yet know whether he can also speak to the falsifying documents, charges that make up the indictment and we certainly know that his testimony could
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be undermined by his criminal record and his ghraieb against the former president, which he modeled here in t-shirt form today on social media that is his former client in a prison jumpsuit behind bars today, judge juan merchan at the defense's urging, warned him to stop talking about trump and the trial and asked the prosecution to tell him so on his behalf, with more on that, we are joined tonight by cnn's kara scannell and former deputy assistant attorney general, harry litman, both of whom were in court today, also a cnn legal analyst, karen friedman, agnifilo, and cnn political commentator errol louis, who is covered donald trump for decades here on local new york news, when note here. >> a colleague of karen agnifilo is law firm, represents michael cohen, though karen herself does not work on the case. she has no contact with cohen and no restrictions on what she can say about it on that note, kara scannell, talk about the courtroom today. what was it like in there? over the highlights? >> so today was a dry day compared with yesterday with stormy daniels on the witness stand, but it was setting up michael cohen's testimony. we
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saw excuse me, phone records that came into evidence today, and these are call logs between michael cohen and a number of these key players. most importantly, with donald trump, also david pecker, keith davidson, all of the players here's that are around the catch and deal. and as we know from this, did not come out in court today, but i expect we'll see this. we know from the federal investigation that there were a lot of phone calls just after the access hollywood tape came out. and as they were trying to wrap up the steel. so i think that is going to this is getting this into evidence now. so that michael cohen can talk about it. he's on the witness stand beginning monday. i mean, added to that, we also saw some of these tweets that donald trump had issued two key time periods. one was a few days after the fbi rate of cohen's home hotel room, and office back in april of 2018. and at that point, trump had tweeted that most people would want michael cohen to flip. he said, i don't see my gold doing that fast-forward to august 2018, the day after cohen pleads guilty and implicates trump in federal court. trump tweets. i would
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strongly suggest that you don't retain the service of michael cohen if you're looking for a good lawyer. so part of the strategy for the prosecution in those is to show that donald trump perhaps subconsciousness of guilty or knew what was happening planning and they got those in today to those to me were the bigger things with today documents in tweets to bolster michael cohen because presumably karen, the prosecution thinks that michael cohen needs bolstering his credibility issues are famous at this point. what do you think the biggest challenge is for the prosecution with cohen on the stand on monday so in new york state, the words of the testimony of somebody sworn under oath is enough to convict someone beyond a reasonable doubt if the jury credits them. but because michael cohen has a criminal history and one of his charges is lying under oath. that's problematic. so what the what the da's it's office wants to do is corroborate as much as possible of what of what he's saying. and so far they've corroborated him 12
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ways to sunday. i mean, they've corroborated every little detail. and when you're a prosecutor and you have a witness who's telling you stuff like, oh, yeah, we talked on the phone. yes. we went in, met in his office. yes. this happen when that happened and then you go get the records and the records backup what they said. that's corroboration and that's what they're showing the jury that being said of all the evidence that they've put in, there still this piece of the link to trump that i think is dependent on michael cohen and that's the one thing that has not been established yet through corroboration. now michael cohen, we have no idea how he's going to do on the stand and if if passed his prelude, you see how aggressive they were with stormy daniels? i have a feeling this is going to be similar, if not much more aggressive here to that point, the karam was making there is this gap in the story that michael cohen has to fill in. what is it you think exactly the prosecution needs to have
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michael cohen say on monday, i really think that they've corroborated almost everything i'd say they're looking to go 360 degrees. i think there is ten degrees and laughed and here's what it is. the statement of facts and the da is going to elicit this from cohen says that trump goes to weisselberg and cohen and says you guys take care of this, goa, go away and figure out what to do. now, and we know a strong corroboration of that, probably the muscle important document in the case, we have weisselberg's handwriting. it's been authenticated as his saying sort of how we get from one but that critical conversation where trump directs it, i think will be only cohen. we heard a lot about weisselberg today and why that jury probably will not hear from him. a very interesting sort of side drama. but i think other than that and i've thought about pretty carefully, that's the only pc has to carry independent. you figure out what to do. will it be enough for the prosecution to get him to say that or does
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cohen also have to say that trump new and/or directed them to actually falsify the records. >> okay? well, so first of these many tweets that came in and they're going to be important for not just for cohen, but for summation there. you're going to have these exhibits, et cetera. and something that came in today was trump's knowing that these were supposedly contention payments for legal services d2 minus that's phony baloney. and that will be wrong are they what are they going to have to show as to trump's intent? they're going to need to show that he knows as the signing checks, et cetera. that that they are for something different than what they're really four, but they've got a fair bit of evidence of that. and that's why the defenses trying to say he's distracted, he signs, checks, the multitask, et cetera. >> and this is the gap and this is what's going to meet next week. so interesting, and this is why michael cohen is so important. errol, you know, oh, yeah, go you have covered
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michael, there was a question, a can you keep it together in terms of not talking about the trial the next few days is the judge really wants him to be going to keep it together on the stand. >> that's right. and those both of those are very much up in the air. we have to keep in mind that he doesn't have very many ways to make a living michael cohen anymore. and one of them is this industry, this anti-trump industry that he's this cottage industry that he's cooked up. well, that involves his books and his podcast. and as a appearances. and it's very hard to sort of let that go. i think i think also though that especially on cross-examination, he is very angry. i mean, he's been angry on your shown on this air. he's been angry in the green room. he's been angry when i've interviewed him, talk with him personally, and he has a lot to be angry. he comes by that anger, honest plea he has he sat in federal prison from his point of view in order to impart at least because he was protecting donald trump, he wants some revenge. you want some payback. the problem of course, is that that will affect his credibility. the
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jurors, if they see somebody who's enraged, clearly vengeful with a financial motive to strike back it starts to maybe reduce some of it and that 10% that we're talking about starts to maybe be a little bit elusive. so it'll, it'll be very interesting to see if he's, if you'll have the self-discipline to keep his eye on the larger prize. the last thing i'll say is, i don't know if he knows any other way to be a lawyer. this is somebody who was not arguing the finer points of constitution fusional law when he was working for donald trump, he was a bulldog. he was a fighter. he was a scraper and i don't think he knows any other way to operate in a courtroom, even if he's a witness? yes. the thing is everyone knows what's this take michael cohen, the prosecution, everyone involved here, you would think this is the one thing they're preparing them for, but it's still remains an unknown, right? >> five meetings though unnormal witness went he one or two. right. >> he's still michael cohen. i could tell i was just gonna say he's he's unprofitable i am sure. >> i like i've never spoken to him. i have no contact, but there are certain people who are unprofitable. they just are who they are we're going to
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talk much more about the case itself. >> what was before the jury today, the transcripts kara scannell today is going to takeover the transcript, reading right now, a closer look at the man in question in so many ways in his journey from donald trump's side to the witness stand are ready. k has that he's gonna end up winning this election come november, because people are seeing through the nonsense that was michael cohen in august 2016, defending his former boss, donald trump and cheering him on to become president. >> about a year later with trump in the white house, cohen told vanity fair magazine, i'm the guy it would take a bullet for the president in the good old days of their relationship with cohen forcefully defended trump at every turn, they say mr. trump's pitbull that in his um, his right-hand man case in point, cohen threatening daily beast reporter in 2015
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cohen had handled legal matters for trump for more than a decade, but the relationships soured when cohen found himself in legal trouble stemming from his dealings with trump that's when cohen went from fixer to foe, donald cannot keep track of the lives that he tells. he always cries the victim when he knows he's going to lose. demand, doesn't tell the truth after the fbi raided cohen's office in 2018, cohen admitted that just before the 2006 seeing election, he'd arranged to pay adult film star stormy daniel's $130,000 in hush money to keep quiet about her alleged sexual encounter with trump in 2006. >> cohen also secretly recorded trump talking about a hush money payment to playboy model karen mcdougal trump has denied affairs with both both women. >> good morning. >> cohen solidified his role as trump's number one enemy when he pleaded guilty in august
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2018 in manhattan, federal court there were eight criminal counts, including campaign finance violations tied to his work for trump cohen said that included the hush money payments to daniels and mcdougal. he implicated his former boss. >> he directed me to make the payments. he directed me to become involved in these matters. >> cohen was sentenced to three years in prison later in 2019, cohen had harsh words for trump when he testified before the house oversight committee he is a racist he is a con man and he's achieved in the new york attorney general's civil lawsuit where trump was found liable for corporate fraud. cohen helped seal his fate by testifying that trump manipulated property values. >> did the president or his company ever inflate assets? our revenues yes and was that done with the president's knowledge or direction?
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>> everything was done with the knowledge. and at the direction of mr. trump in 2018, michael cohen pleaded guilty to lying under oath to congress the year before all right. which does some makes him a flawed star witness. still come monday. no doubt cohen will be pointing fingers in trump's direction. again. randy k, cnn, palm beach county, florida it will be something. >> all right. we're back with the panel after the break. kara scannell has been going through the trial transcripts specifically about the matter we have talked so much about it hurt so much about so far, but have not heard from yet. the former top trump money man, allen weisselberg plus more breaking news, the latest on the very intense solar storms now being felt here and seeing here in some very southern lee, northern lights, but they could potentially cause havoc with the pattern our grid and communications details ahead you're calling some people find there's at an early age.
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>> he was intimately involved with then trump's cfo, allen weisselberg in the catch and kill operations the silence. karen mcdougal, part of which he recorded in a conversation cnn obtained in july of 2018 i need to open up a company for the transfer of wallet that info regarding our friend david so i'm. >> going to do that right away. i'd actually come up by spotting and i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with so what are we funding that? >> yes and it's all the stuff david is then national enquirer publisher david pecker, who is the state's first witness. >> allen weisselberg is the guy now doing time and new york's rikers island, sent there by one judge, juan were sean, whose name came up in some rather interesting ways during today's proceedings, back with a panel at joining us former federal judge, shira scheindlin. and we're going to get back to michael cohen in
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just a second. first care, i want to focus some of the testimony today. madeleine westerhout, who was a white house aide to donald trump, was on the stand when court resumes this morning on cross-examinati on, what did she have to say? about the first year of the trump administration? >> so one of the questions that susan necheles, trump's attorney was focusing on in this period, was harb was donald trump's conversations with allen weisselberg because he is part of this reimbursement scheme. this is when these checks were being cut and then we've heard testimony about how close they are. so on cross nicholas asks westerhout and you were asked if allen weisselberg you spoke to weisselberg during when he was doing when he was president. do you recall that about checks? yes. necklace says, am i correct that you do not have any specific recollection of allen weisselberg and the president and president trump's speaking during the first year that president trump was in office westerhout, that's correct. yes. necklace. and you have a vague recollection that at some point they might have spoken about a check westerhout? yes, vaguely uh-huh. necklace. but
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you're not even sure that's true, right? westerhout's know, nicholas, and in fact, you really don't recall any calls specifically between him and allen weisselberg, right? westerhout know he spoke to so many people. so defense trying to use this to say if they were on the phone all the time talking about this reimbursement and cutting of checks that she would have some memory of this course, ossicular would argue that this was something that maybe they had the one conversation they were not supposed to talk about it again. >> so harry madeleine westerhout testify that talk to weisselberg so maybe not all that much. trump maybe didn't see every check he was signing. donald trump really loved his wife in that was what madeleine westerhout, a prosecution witness, testified to today's that's the hand they were down and we saw this with rhona graff. we saw it with her. these are these are the witnesses. they have cohen's the only real infidel there otherwise, working within the trump's circle, like the january 6 committee did. and you're exactly right. i think maybe the best five minutes or
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so for trump in the whole trial, she she was very welcome pliant as a witness and really, really aim to please and to make a man's for having messed up and the main thing i think she wanted to use them for it. you'll see that there's a single question on re-cross where she just says basically he loves maloney right? so that that is the number one yeah, i think they're going to try to use in closing argument and she's the one who gives it to them. >> so prosecution witness but help trump. that's right, judge. i do want to ask you what george bush sean talked about at the end of the day-to-day, which is basically responding to requests for a gag order on michael cohen, didn't officially issue a gag order, but basically pleaded with any you want who would listen to get michael cohen to shut up. that's exactly right. >> he said tell him that i'm asking him please to keep his mouth shut over the next three are three to six days and not say anything about donald trump. i'm asking and tell him it comes from me, which is the best he could do. he said, why
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is it the best you know, he can't issue a gag? order on a witness, but he's imploring him through the lawyer to not do it because he knows that if if he does do it, then trump responds and then we get another gag order problem and the jug doesn't want, but it's not just pretty pleased, judge wright, you say that there's muscle behind that when a court says don't you think it depends how you are if you're michael cohen, there may not be the muscle fact. it varies quiet for the next few days. yeah, i've got just, you know, this picture we have of the screen with something that michael cohen posted today. >> i know yeah. the day a t-shirt that the bars are not on trump behind bars wednesday. >> wednesday. well, it's been posted this week. yeah so it's something that my day is there. today is when he asked not to do it. so kara it told. us the most interesting part of the day to me, at least was when the charge after the jury had left starts talking about island weisselberg, explain. yeah. so the prosecution wanted to get into evidence the severance agreement that weissberg has with the trump organization. he is still owed
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$750,000 under this agreement. and there are a couple of terms one of which is that you're not to testify against the trump organization in an adverse fashion. so they want to introduce this into evidence to kind of get at why we're not hearing from allen weisselberg in this case. and he is someone that is part of this conspiracy. so the jury could take some couldn't could read into this that he has some bias in that that's why he's not here testify. and so this was something that trump's lawyers were pushing back on. and so the judge and saying like whether this is admissible or not, he digs into whether he would would or would not testify. and so he says my question is, has anyone attempted to get him to come in in some way? by serving him with a subpoena or in other words, tried to compel us testimony. chris conroy, prosecutor said, judge, the people have not. the judge said in have you you have an obligation aiml beauvais said no. and why? because allen weisselberg is in rikers island. he's in jail. and so they the judge said it would be
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helpful to me if you brought them in and we just asked them is you're going to start the fifth or is he going its requests? >> so care first of all, it was interesting to hear the judge basically say, hey, be great for me. so why don't the prosecution neither the prosecution nor the defense wants him anywhere near this courthouse. so i'd love to know the answer to that too, because allen weisselberg has been all over this trial the jury is going to notice that the jury is going to notice he's not here and he should testify for somebody. >> right. if he's not coming in for the prosecution, they're going to know why, but then they're going to wonder, why is he not testifying on behalf of donald trump when i was a prosecutor, i used to love, frankly, when my witnesses were incarcerated because i knew where to find them. i am i could have control over for them. i can make sure they could come to court, so there's no reason just because he's incarcerated, that they can't bring him into court and it's interesting to me, it's like this elephant in the room because he, everyone says michael cohen is the key in some ways, he has the same key right he was the one who has just as a coconspirator as much as as as michael cohen is as
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much as donald trump is. he has, he could also provide the testimony or the exoneration, yet he's nowhere to be found on balance. i think that actually hurts donald trump more because he is expected to be favorable to him and there's another person to his bodyguard, mr. schiller, is another name that the jury has heard about. he was the guy who stormy daniels would contact who is standing outside the hotel room door when they had their little rendezvous. he's also the guy who would accept the checks and the white house and bring them to donald trump? so they're hearing that name to wondering where is he and why has donald trump not called these two witnesses, even though donald trump has no obligation to put on a defense or call witnesses. i think the jury is going to wonder in their mind, why aren't they testifying? >> el al was a bird, has done a lot for donald trump he has, he has indeed, and he's got family members who work in the organization. >> he's got a lot at stake. he but he is in jail right now, in part because he lied in a prior court case. he has lied under
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oath at great cost to himself personally. this is a guy who was, doesn't really belong in jail on, on sort of a biological level. he's not doing so well and yet he did it out of loyalty. and it's not just financial loyalty at this point this is basically his whole life and his whole career. so it would be i think a little bit risky to bring him in where does that chain of loyalty break? when and why? unlike michael cohen, who's gone completely outside of the trump organization hey, should orbit. it sounds like allen weisselberg wants to literally live and die within trump-world. >> and judge, with the da did say he can't put them on because it won't be able to talk to him in advance, don't know what i'll say. i'm sorry, i know i was going to say the same thing. neither side was this guy because neither side knows what he's going to say. we don't call a witness when you don't know what they're going to say he could hurt the prosecution, he could hurt the defense. so far he's been a stand-up guy for the defense. he's gotten out of his way to protect trump. so the de really
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doesn't want him, but trump's not are either doesn't want another perjury wrap. judge, 30 seconds or less year jury instructions. they started floating the discussion. yeah. >> what are the complications that it's very complicated because it's charged as a felony meaning that the misdemeanor of falsifying business records now has to be with the intent to commit another crime and trying to explain to the jury what they do with that other crime. first of all, what is it? is it the 17152 new york state election law? if so, how did they explain that? what is the jury have to do? do they tell him the elements? will that hold up? it's a state law, but it's talking about effecting an election which is a federal election. so there's legal issues that are very complex in that too, but that's not for the jury. that's later on appeal. >> it is something the judge's note about thinking about oh boy, i bet long time. all right. thank you. all very much coming up. we have more breaking news a short time ago, us officials upgraded a powerful solar storm hitting earth right now and into the
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us from as far south as the united kingdom, switzerland, and germany in many americans, perhaps as far south as georgia and alabama, may have the chance to see these beautiful sights tonight. >> i'm joined now by meteorologist chad myers at the cnn weather center in atlanta. >> and our chief climate correspondent, bill, we're first chad to you. >> what does it mean that this was upgraded to the most extreme g5 level? >> i didn't know there was a g anything when it came to solar storms right? >> because we did not get a g5 during the last solar cycle, 11 years ago. so when you said it was backing o3, that means we're two cycles back to get to this g5, it means that there is extreme plasma in our atmosphere right now, charging power lines, doing all kinds of things to the atmosphere and our infrastructure that we just haven't probably seen the results of yet. we're kinda building because another one of these surges, another surge is going to come about midnight tonight. now i know these are pretty pictures and these are solar flares, but we're talking
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about coronal mass ejections. it is a mass of plasma that is shot out from the sun. you'd have to watch the very first frame here, watched the first frame on the very next picture, and see how that just goes. that is the cloud of plasma. and why is it important? >> because it's not going this way. >> it's not going north, it's not going is going right at you. it's like someone blowing a smoke ring in your face and you know, it's coming. we know this is coming because of the way it ejected from the sun. the sunspot get this came from his 17 times the diameter of earth. this is a very large system now, all of a sudden, another coronal mass ejection right there with all of its plasma set to hit at 4:30 utc, greenwich mean time, about 12:30 eastern time. now it could be a little bit earlier because all the ones that we thought would be about i've 5:00 came in around 1:00 this afternoon. so these are moving faster, maybe then even forecast a significant upgrade
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from four to five, five means that power lines are likely to lose power, not just possible. we're into the likely category that some of these service providers may not be able to keep up especially like the rural providers that haven't cut or co-ops that just haven't kept up or been able to upgrade their systems to keep this out of their leinz will see right now, i've looked at power outages that us and we're doing just fine. >> so how does this compare to other geomagnetic storms? >> well, the fact that we haven't had one for, 21 years is means that it is big and it also means that because we had six, two, maybe seven of them come out, they're going to be additive. so yes, we got the first one i may be even half of a second one, but there's a third and a fourth and fifth and six still on the way. and these are going to accumulate. and so the gene he five is going to fluctuate. i just noticed it just looked over there and i said g1, but don't let that don't look at space weather and say, oh, well, that's only, it's only a one there lying. it's a five. no,
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it was a five hour one. it's going to be two and it's going to be three and it's gonna be a five again, absolutely. by tonight, we're going to see this intense, extreme storm continue. and it will continue for maybe two or three more days so bill djadja scared me enough about power grid. >> right? >> and what what else is this going to do to us potentially? well, this is a good history lesson for context. 1921, the northern lights show up in havana in miami, in panama a couple of days later, the telegraph are a couple of hours later, the telegraph system goes haywire in united states, operators are able to unplug the battery and send messages over the air. there was so much electricity at a train station in albany, new york set on fire when flames leaped from the switch there these big storms that was probably a g5 i've only hit the earth like that pre electrical grid. now we are all connected by this rube goldberg machine of thousands of different utilities hook together with transmission lines. there's east coast,
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west coast, texas has their own they did a study that if the 1920s, one event were to happen today it would cause a blackout for 130 million people close to half of all americans. >> and they report estimated cost of a storm between 12 trillion. >> what would take four to ten years to recover from, because when big one of these big pieces of equipment that sends electricity long distances is transformer blows these are sort of bespoke pieces of machinery. it takes months to build a new one. and if hundreds of those go out, it could connect it. and that doesn't even get us into the gps satellites, which get mucked up when this happens, which connects are banking shipping thing military, national security, all affected by all that power, we forget the sun is this thermonuclear bomb that has been going off for 4 billion years. and the energy coming off of it really hurts. >> you might have a long night yeah, we've got a lot to talk, aware. >> all right. listen. thank you so much for being here, chat
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the abuse of palestinian detainees. >> they we're rounded up during israel's invasion of gaza and held in an israeli military base, doubling as a detention center we do, want to warn you that what you are about to see and hear is graphic scene. its chief global affairs correspondent matthew chance has the exclusive it's a place the israeli military doesn't want us to see but at the seti to man facility in southern israel, we joined human rights activists amid growing concern for palestinian detainees inside. >> this is a protest by israeli citizens outside a detention center close to gaza, where we know hundreds of palestinians been held. you can see it's a closed military facility. it's behind the barbed wire fence were not permitted access. this hostility from passes by somebody drive past in a car and they shouted out to us in hebrew, defending murderers,
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know if anybody, are defending basic human rights and nice cnn has gained exclusive evidence of prisoner abuse at side2 man for multiple israeli whistleblowers have witnessed what happens inside one young israeli reservists told us he saw scores of detainees at steady tonight and shackled and blindfolded. >> we've hidden his identity and voice to shield him from prosecution. >> we were told they are not allowed to move and must sit upright they're not allowed to talk or peek under their blindfold and what happened if they if they did do that so what are punishments were retired. we were allowed to pick out problematic people and punish them, having them stand with their hands above their heads for an unlimited time. if they didn't keep their hands up, we could zip tie them to the fence the israeli military says detainees are handcuffed based on their risk level and health status. but the account tallies with photographic evidence obtained by cnn of palestinian detainees inside
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said the two men and with hand and wrist injuries show to cnn by dozens of palestinians released back into gaza zip-tied and blindfolded says this former detainees and tortured in a way i never imagined one source telling us the restraints were so tight that had to amputate a man's hand. >> the view that i've heard expressed is that hack heidi think israeli hostages are treated by hamas. >> this sentiment was voiced in the facility, but i think that if hamas is so abominable which i agree with, then why use hamas as a bar? it's a descent into dehumanization a descent that's accelerated since the rampage by hamas on october the seventh last year the killing and abduction to gaza of hundreds of israelis provoked outrage. >> and a brutal response mean israel's roth tens of thousands of palestinians have
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been killed detained for interrogation transported to facilities like cetera, to man we want israeli guard. now tell cnn, prisoners are routinely beaten. we've hidden his identity and voice to you can take them out and eat them maybe four or five times per the club the detainees light belly down, being hidden, kicked, people screaming, and dogs barking at them. it's terrifying some detainees are taken away and beaten really hard. so bones and teeth are broken. >> so you saw people who are subject to these beatings or had their broke bones broken and you had their teeth broken. >> yes. it's a practice which commanders know about. they want intelligence, but they also want revenge and punishment for happened on october 7 the israeli military hasn't approved cnn's
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requests for access to side2 man the gates of the facility. >> we challenged the israeli guards i that would be blindfolded oh. this isn't facilities. >> as we lead by masked solids which is hello get stopped and don't like coming. >> this will lead the army although you're all i'm saying that daniel order us to leave while we're driving now to meet one israeli with personal experience of this today tame man facility it's experienced that he says has left him
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shocked at the condition and the medical treatment of palestinian detainees. there he told us he treated palestinian detainees with gunshot wounds, fresh from the war zone in gaza. but was appalled at the lack of equipment and expertise. >> the problem is gazans who are brought in are labeled as terrorists. and it is very popular opinion over here that terrorists deserve to die. so they do not deserve the same medical care as everyone else satellite imagery obtained by cnn shows how the set e to man facility was expanded after the october 7 attacks with detention facilities and makeshift medical bays being added after public hospitals in israel refused to treat injured gazan suspects eyewitness accounts described a field hospital with 15 to 20 patients, virtually naked and blindfolded with hands and
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feet, shackled to their beds, wearing diapers what i witness told cnn painful procedures were carried out by underqualified medics. >> treatment. the medical worker told us amounts to punishment in my view, it's the idea of total vulnerability. if you imagine being unable to move, being unable to see what's going on that's something that borders, if not crosses, into psychological torture the israeli military says prisoners are stripped for security checks and that investigations are open when there's suspicion of misconduct. >> still, accounts from israelis and palestinians inside. and the shocking images paint a disturbing picture well, john, there's been reaction already from the white house. they're saying their deeply disturbed by the outcome of this investigation from cnn
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and reaching out to their counter the parts in israel to try and get answers. and they say they want good answers because this really cuts to one of the big concerns about israel's actions in gaza since the hamas tax on october the seventh whether the country is following the right strategy or not already, there's a big debate in israel about whether too much emphasis has been placed on destroying hamas instead of releasing the hostages now, israelis are increasingly concerned that israel may be stepping over its own moral boundaries as it seeks retribution. what happened last year? >> john we'll see how this report shapes that discussion. matthew chance. thank you very much for that report. coming up the latest on the shooting death of a us airmen by a florida sheriff's deputy including dispatch audio newly obtained by cnn, are nick valencia joins us next water would help with this dry spots.
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has obtained police dispatch audio surrounding the shooting of 23-year-old senior us air man, roger fortson last week by a florida sheriff's deputy. this comes after a release of video from a police body camera, as well as a facetime call involving fortson's girlfriend. the moment of the shooting, seen as nick valencia report sports newly obtained police dispatch audio reveals the first call came in around 4:00 p.m. on may 3rd, about a physical disturbance in progress male and female information i, believe around 4:29 p.m. the four minute police body camera video begins with an okaloosa county, florida sheriff's deputy arriving on the scene frequently. okay this time it sounded like it was getting out. a woman at the complex tells the deputy she heard yells and a slap coming from
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the apartment two weeks ago, but wasn't sure exactly where it came from eventually, she directs the deputy to fourth floor apartment 1401 the home of 23-year-old senior airman, roger fortson, saying the girl who made the call about the physical disturbance sounded scared at 4:30 1pm, the deputy knocks once without introducing himself roughly 30 seconds later, he knocks again twice a warning. >> what you're about to see over the next 20 seconds is grappling fortson, who appears in the body camera video to have a lowered firearm in his right hand was shot six times to the chest. he survived the initial shooting. >> three, 12 get you mess mylocation. but was later pronounced dead at the hospital. >> my baby was my everything was it wasn't my third sign
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well, we come from you don't end up what roger and adding to their pain fortson's family believes deputies went to the wrong address, a claim that the sheriff disputed while defending his deputies actions ben crump, natalie jackson, and brian bar represent the family. they say the initial police statement was misleading and left-out key details of the shooting it makes you think this happened outside that this kid was in the middle of a disturbance and he did something he instigated this and lost his life. >> that's what it makes it sound like it sounded like justified. >> we are aware of a press release and other comments that falsely state our deputy entered the wrong apartment and imply that they burst through the door into mr. fortson's residents during the shooting, the ehrmann was on a facetime call with his girlfriend who
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crump says told him there was never a disturbance at fortson's home. crump says fortson had been home alone just 30 minutes before the deputy arrived he heard two knocks at the door, and when he couldn't see anyone through the peephole, crump said citing the girlfriend, then forts and grabbed his gun, which crump said he legally owned in the girlfriend's facetime video, we hear forts and struggled to breathe after the shooting as he lies on the floor bleeding out the deputy is now on paid administrative leave while the florida department of law enforcement investigated state attorney's office and okaloosa county tells me that they're going to wait for the fda lee to finish its investigation before they decide whether to pursue charges. an earlier i got a hold of the chief assistant state attorney, their gregg anchors, and he's seen the video, but he refused to comment when i asked him to he